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Seagerth

Posted 10 September 2014 - 02:37 AM

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Right now I currently live with my mother and sister in a 3 bedroom flat house which has one flat below and one flat above. After being forced twice to move from previous locations due to harrasment, we finally thought we had it made in a nice area. There have been 3 previous tennants of the flat above for as long as we have been there. The first one was a drunk and moved after being put in hospital by his mates.... the second has a crazy cousin who kept chewing khat which made him violent towards me and my family. And lastly my current neighbor, who has been an absolute pain in the ass. Not only has he threatened, intimidated and got in my mother and sisters face.... he has had the nerve to absolutely blast his music at all hours of the day and night!

 

It's been 2 years since his moved in, when we first met him the first thing he said was that he does not drink, take drugs or listen to music and that he would be a great neighbor...........  3 days later he absolutley blasted his music with bass making it impossible to even talk to my mother who was sitting right next to me without shouting. After half an hour of this I went and banged on his door for 3 hours to no reply... at 2am he stopped. This continued untill we started to involve the police, family housing and after I had a word with him. It's safe to say that I have been warned that I am no longer aloud to approach him according to the police. After months of the noise while I was in my first year of university making it impossible to study, family housing finally decided that they were going to do something and came out to witness the noise. After many failed attempts as they either took to long or he got lucky and either went out or stopped just before they came, they eventually caught him when we were at our wits end. They served him with a notice which he completly ignored and carried on. At which point we were told to start logging this information in with the police. After having to call out the police for noise nuisance, smell of drugs and fights that were happening in the flat above, they finally said that in their opinion, family housing should have enough to kick him out. To which we were told from family housing that hey needed more evidence which then led to EH. They provided us with equipment to record him and we did manage to catch him playing and he was again served with another notice. He then ignored that notice to which EH and family housing did not follow up on. Finally he only stopped playing when his stereo broke. But we still had to deal with it for a year which was ridiculous, as well as dealing with his mates shouting in the early hours of the morning.

 

 

Sadly 3 weeks ago, he decided to be a smart arse and leave a letter on our door stating that he fixed his stereo and that he is gonna play some of his favorite songs, but don't worry as it won't be as bad as last year..... We showed the letter and family housing told us that he shot himself in his foot as he admitted to playing loud music, that week he played every single day non-stop. Eventually we were put on the after hours and given the machine to record these instances. That week, he decided he was going to be quite which annoyed the hell out of us. 4 days later he started again, this time we called enviromental health to send someone out at 6 o clock. They eventually sent someone out at 10:42, and when they got there he was playing really loud in the living room which they even agreed it was very loud. However, because of the time they could only judge noise in our bedrooms... when they went into our rooms they said it has to be as loud as it is in the living room for it to be a noise nuisance and left....

 

A week later we finally get two people out during the day who comfirmed he was in breach of the notice served to him in FEBUARY. They came out three times that day and all three times they said the same thing. Now, we come to this week. On monday he absolutley blasted his music waking me up which was really annoying as I was not feeling well and carried on blasting it the whole day. When we called EH to send someone out, they said that there was no one there to come out. We called again multiple times and still nothing leaving us to put up with it. Today he did it again waking us all up this time absolutley blasting his bass for an hour, he eventually left running down the stairs singing his song very loudly banging all the doors around 8:30am. We called EH and told them what had happened and they said they were going to review the evidence they had. AN HOUR later he came back and continued where he left off, so we called EH as they have told us to call them no matter how loud and that we should keep calling them so they can eventually catch him. To our shock, when we talked to the person in charge of our case, she told us that we have called way to many times and that the evidence they had was not enough even tho two of their people had come out and heard the noise at its worst and we were told that if two more people come out again and hear it then they would act... Instead what we were told was that tmrow she was going to go over the evidence formally but informally they were taking us off the list as we were wasting their time.......!!! I have never been so furious as we had to listen to it the whole god dam day again which is making me physically sick and its making my mother and sister worse as we have all suffered with depression..

 

Now for the part of me thinking of doing something stupid.. During my time in the areas we lived before we movied, we made some friends as we were good to everyone, no matter who they were. These friends, some of them made more recently have offered to take care of the problem because we told them what he has been doing and how he threatened my mother and sister, because we needed to talk to someone and no one would listen. The friend that I made recently actually used to be a very bad person but has thankfully changed his ways, lets just say that he practically used to run things in birmingham and he does not really have to worry about money and has alot of friends he can call on. He as well as others have offered their services to which we have so far declined because we do not see it as their problem. But this move from EH (Enviromental Health) has just pushed us over the edge. We can barely sleep, they won't come out and complain when there is not enough evidence. We have countless statements off neighbors who came over and heard the bass blasting through the flat. The police can't even believe that nothing has been done as they have made statements too. We have recordings, logs, witnesses and its still not enough. WE EVEN HAVE A PRACTICAL CONFESSION FROM HIM and they are going to stop helping us as they are tired of dealing with us..... The offers from these old and new friends are becoming more and more appealing but If I can avoid it I will.. but I am at my wits end. We have placed our trust in the system and it has failed. Family Housing even wants to get rid of him but won't as they do not want to pay the court fee's. Someone please help..... before I take matters into my own hands. Please remember before you think I am being harsh, the man threatened my family, followed them, tried to intimidate them and scared my sister who btw suffers with disabilities and mental health which deteriorated when all this started. WHAT SHOULD I DO?

 

Also sorry for this being so long, but this does not even cover half of what has happened over the 2 years...



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MinIons

Posted 10 September 2014 - 08:07 AM

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Hi there,

I don't have much experience of this type of noise, but hopefully someone else who has will be able to answer you. I can say your story is one of the most frustrating I have ever seen, and your local EH are a total disgrace. Think most of us have received offers of "help" from people, and just like you, have refused them. You have done so well this far not to retaliate, don't let your family down now as it sounds like they really need you. By the context of your email you sound like a very smart, clever and loyal young man and imagine your family are very proud of you. Don't give up, you will get some really helpful advice from the people on this site, they know exactly what you are going through.xx



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Seagerth

Posted 10 September 2014 - 11:50 AM

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Thank you for replying and understanding. I hope someone out there has some advice they can give me to solve this situation as its driving us crazy. We have asked family housing to move us or him, so now they are trying to move us. Sadly they are trying to move us back to the areas we were forced to get away from which is ridiculous after we explained to them everything that had happened and what effect it would have on my sisters health. But thank you for the reply, I was planning on calling in those offers when I woke up but thankfully I checked my emails and your reply has actually calmed me down a bit and changed my mind. I know people who have had worser situations with neighbors so we have tried to put up with it but a person can only be pushed so far before they decide enough is enough. I just hope this gets solved sometime in the close future..... But thank you.



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Posted 10 September 2014 - 01:26 PM

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Hi there,

I share your frustration at your situation, and I know it often feels like you are banging your head against a brick wall, but, eventually you will get there. Fingers crossed you are offered a new area altogether, especially with your sisters health being a factor? Perhaps an official letter from your family doctor to your landlord? xx



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Seagerth

Posted 10 September 2014 - 01:57 PM

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We already have the letter from the doctors for both my mother and my sister stating that the distress caused by flat 3 has caused their conditions to deteriorate. We also have had support workers send in letters to what they have heard and how it has affected my sister and still nothing. Our family doctor has actually witnessed some of the things happen and put it in a statement but it is still not enough. They just tell us that they are sympathetic towards our situation but they cannot do anything untill they get more evidance and we should just keep logging it in. In my opinion they have enough evidance which just makes there lack of action confusing, but ye fingers crossed we get moved to a new area and I hope your situation gets solved as well and thanks for replying.

 

Oh and I forgot to mention that our former family officer let slip that he actually got moved from the area he was previously located for doing the exact same thing.... How they could move him into a family residential flat after he got kicked out his previous place for doing the same thing is beyond me. The fact that they know he has priors and still won't act makes the situation even more frustrating. :/



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Lady Godiva

Posted 10 September 2014 - 02:36 PM

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Hello,

 

Sometimes I think they just don't know what to do with people like this.

I've got one next to me at the moment. They have mentioned moving him. That's fine by me if they do but it won't solve the situation for the authorities and they will be answering the same complaints about this person but just at a new location.

 

I would make an official complaint about the EH. You should find their complaints procedure on their website. They've given you advice and then when you've followed their advice, they've said you are doing the wrong thing.

They shouldn't do that and that needs addressing.

 

I would also write to your MP or Local Councillor and see if they can offer you some support.

Show them the doctor's letters etc and tell them you've been logging and logging with no action.

 

I really can't remember the name of the lady but it was in the news recently about logging evidence. She said that people were being asked to log for too long and no action was being taken.

It is a valuable tool but it is also used as a delaying tactic and this shouldn't happen.

I don't think it is appropriate after everything that has happened.

This man has already been reprimanded and he's gone against that, so why are you endlessly logging when he's broken the law?

I would include that in your complaint and ask them to clarify how much logging they need and why they need it, given that this man's behaviour has been witnessed and previous action has been taken.

 

You really need some proper support with this.







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